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Of course, to some people, the dangers of being caught using apps like this to count cards might even be worse than having a Vegas tough guy break some fingers. Webtopia also cautions users of the app that, "This card counter is great for learning to count cards or for playing blackjack with your friends. While "A Blackjack Card Counter" might be the only iPhone app specifically called out by the Gaming Control Board, it is by no means the only app that purports to at least teach card counting techniques. Films like The Cooler , 21 , Rounders , Casino and many others have made this kind of scene, even if it's not always about card counting, a staple of our imagination. Discuss: Casinos on lookout for iPhone card-counting app Sign in to comment Be respectful, keep it civil and stay on topic.{/INSERTKEYS}{/PARAGRAPH} Daniel Terdiman. Yates also said that since the Nevada Gaming Control Board put out its alert, sales of the app have risen to around a day, after lingering at 10 or so a day previously. Once this program is installed on the phone through the iTunes Web site it can make counting cards easy," Nevada Gaming Control Board member Randall Sayre wrote in the alert. What is definitely illegal, however, is the employment of any kind of electronic device that aids players in counting cards. Sayre added that the application can be used legitimately--outside any Nevada casino--to help people learn advanced blackjack techniques. It offers a disclaimer that, 'This app is for entertainment purposes only. It's kind of interesting that they were forthcoming about this. We delete comments that violate our policy , which we encourage you to read. Apple did not respond to a request for comment Tuesday. But with an app called "A Blackjack Card Counter," that's not, in fact, the case. Earlier this month, the Nevada Gaming Control Board, itself tipped off by the California Bureau of Gambling Control, issued an alert to "all non-restricted licensees and interested parties"--the state's casinos--warning of the emergence of iPhone card counting apps. To Sayre, of the Gaming Control Board, it would indeed be abnormal to issue a public statement about new cheating technology. Therefore I would not recommend using this app in a casino as you could get into a lot of trouble. Counting in casinos may be hazardous to your health. For its part, the makers of "A Blackjack Card Counter," an Australian outfit called Webtopia, couldn't be happier about the attention being paid to its app as a result of its potentially illegal nature. And it's not even illegal, though being caught at it is sure to lead to a hasty expulsion from a casino, at best, or even the kind of back-room visit discussed above. {PARAGRAPH}{INSERTKEYS}Update pm: This story has been modified to include reaction from the creator of the card-counting iPhone app. Discussion threads can be closed at any time at our discretion. Others currently available on the App Store include Card Counter and Card Counting Practice , the latter of which warns, "This app is for entertainment purposes only. Since the July launch of the App Store , Apple has maintained a sort of moral code--a PGtype standard, if you will--surrounding the thousands of iPhone and iPod Touch applications available via the service. In a story in the Las Vegas Review Journal , Howard Stutz wrote that the Gaming Control Board leaves it up to individual casinos to decide their own policies regarding the use of mobile phones and other electronic devices. They might decide to take away your iPhone. And in an interview, Webtopia's Travis Yates, a year-old developer in Cairns, Australia, said that the stealth features of the app--which allow players to surreptitiously hit buttons updating the count on the iPhone while its screen appears black--came as a result of feedback on earlier versions of the app. Don't show this again. This is particularly useful when using stealth mode. Be respectful, keep it civil and stay on topic. According to Webtopia, the app "allows any blackjack player, professional or amateur, to keep track of their blackjack card count. That's why, for example, there are no iPhone porn apps, though it is certainly possible to access adult content optimized for the device. Webtopia We've all seen the movies where the hot-shot gambler slips up and finds himself hustled off to a back room where a genial but brutal casino manager calmly breaks a few fingers while issuing a stern warning never to come back. Given that, one would think that Apple wouldn't have given the thumbs-up to an app that, if used in the most logical manner, could get someone arrested, or worse. While counting cards is deemed legal, electronic card counting devices are illegal in many casinos. But he added in the story that, "After iPhones came on the market in , Harrah's Entertainment halted their use at the World Series of Poker. We've all seen the movies where the hot-shot gambler slips up and finds himself hustled off to a back room where a genial but brutal casino manager calmly breaks a few fingers while issuing a stern warning never to come back. It's my understanding that the app isn't illegal, so I thought, 'Why not? Yet card counting--a complex practice that gives practitioners a way to determine the optimal times to bet in blackjack--prevails to this day. And, as Sayre pointed out, "use of this type of program or possession of a device with this type of program on it--with the intent to use it--in a licensed gaming establishment, is a violation" of the law.